Friendly fire precedes O’Reilly, Stewart debate

WASHINGTON — Pundit Bill O’Reilly and comedian Jon Stewart will square off Saturday night at Lisner Auditorium in a mock political debate. Billed as “The Rumble 2012” in an evocation of a prize fight, the sold-out show will be available over the Internet through live streaming. When the two men step behind their podiums, the biggest question may not be who will knock out whom, but whether these two combatants will prevent the rhetorical smackdown from becoming more lovefest than tongue-lashing.

On more than one occasion, O’Reilly has spoken surprisingly warmly of his rival, who as the host of Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show” makes regular comic mincemeat out of O’Reilly’s employer, Fox News. “I like Stewart,” O’Reilly has said, with apparent sincerity. “I respect his opinion.”

For his part, Stewart calls O’Reilly “the most reasonable voice on Fox,” even though that voice has been known to rise in apoplectic fury at some of his liberal guests on “The O’Reilly Factor.” (The comedian did qualify that praise, comparing O’Reilly’s achievement to “being the thinnest kid at fat camp.”)

Over the years, the men have made good-natured appearances on each other’s programs. On Sept. 18, Stewart turned up on “The O’Reilly Factor” to explain his reasons for agreeing to the debate, which arguably puts him in enemy territory, given that it will be moderated by former “Fox News Live” host — and former O’Reilly radio co-host — E.D. Hill. As you may remember, Hill infamously referred to a congratulatory greeting between Barack and Michelle Obama after the 2008 primaries as a “terrorist fist jab.”

“I sense there is still good in you,” Stewart told O’Reilly, in an allusion to Luke Skywalker’s decidedly complicated relationship with his father, Darth Vader.

Not that O’Reilly and Stewart share political DNA. But they’re also less polarized than you might think. The Fox News host has gone on record as supporting environmental regulation, gun control, civil unions and gay adoption. He opposes the death penalty.

Strangest of all, perhaps? O’Reilly, a registered independent, professes not to have a knee-jerk hatred of all things Democratic, unlike some of the more inflammatory talking heads whom he has referred to as “assassins.” To the contrary, it is entirely plausible that O’Reilly “loooves” President Obama, as conservative commentator Ann Coulter sarcastically dismissed her sometime ideological ally in a recent interview.

OK, love may be a strong word.

In any event, the Rumble — an hour of debate followed by 30 minutes of audience questions — is being pitched as a conversation fueled less by partisanship than by philosophy. When they met last month, Stewart called the event “an old-fashioned duel of wits.” O’Reilly has described it as a forum to illuminate “vital issues” of the day, including the economy and the national debt; terrorism and American relations in Muslim countries; and gas prices and energy policy.

Hoo boy, that’s comedy gold right there.

Should you worry that the Rumble won’t live up to the hype? Most real political debates are exercises in repetition, evasion and platitudes. But look who’s talking here, and more important, how they talk. Stewart and O’Reilly have never been shy about campaigning – for ratings. Ironically, publicists for the event were loath to confirm even simple details about the debate format, beyond what both men have said publicly. It makes candidates’ reluctance to offer specifics seem like an exercise in oversharing.

One thing is almost certain. As Stewart succinctly — and, with any luck, presciently — put it in the Rumble’s press release: “I believe this will be a very enjoyable night for fans of our programs, political junkies, partisans and people who just enjoy yelling.”

How to Watch

Don’t wait until the last minute. Before airtime — Saturday at 5 p.m. — head over to www.therumble2012.com with your credit card or PayPal info and click on the “Pre-order now” icon; the event costs $4.95. After setting up a password-protected account, you’ll get access to watch the event — or listen to it, if you prefer — live on your computer. (If you have an HDMI cable, Apple TV or other digital media box, you should be able to watch it on your television, too. Make sure your computer has Adobe Flash 11 or higher.) After Saturday, you can replay the program, on demand, up to three times, at your convenience. Later, the MP4 or MP3 file is yours to download and keep, at no additional cost.

One more thing: Because half of the proceeds go to charity, organizers request that you not share or redistribute the show. For more information, visit the FAQ section of the Rumble website.

Tale of the Tape: Bill O’Reilly vs. Jon Stewart

BILL O’REILLY

Birth Name: William James O’Reilly, Jr.

Hometown: Levittown, N.Y.

Nickname: Papa Bear, Mr. Grouch

Age: 63

Height: 6’4”

Median Viewer Age: 65 and older

Primetime Emmy Awards: 0

Religion: Catholic

Political Persuasion: Right-leaning Independent

Paid His Dues: On local TV news

Favorite Insult: Pinhead

Strategy: No spin

Signature Move: Finger jab

Verbal Dexterity: Publishes obscure “Word of the Day”

Dubious Honor: Simultaneously topped ‘08 survey of public’s favorite and least favorite journalists

One Degree of Separation: Grew up with Billy Joel

Literary Lincoln Legacy: “Killing Lincoln: The Shocking Assassination That Changed America Forever”

Over-the-Top Praise: The new pope of TV journalism

JON STEWART

Birth Name: Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz

Hometown: Lawrenceville, N.J.

Nickname: Soupy, Stew Beef

Age: 49

Height: 5’7”

Median Viewer Age: 41

Primetime Emmy Awards: 16

Religion: Jewish

Political Persuasion: Left-leaning Democrat

Paid His Dues: In sweaty comedy clubs

Favorite Insult: Impolite word for male member

Strategy: Fake news

Signature Move: Sarcastic eye roll

Verbal Dexterity: Does New York Times crossword in ink

Dubious Honor: Asteroid named after him

One Degree of Separation: Shared beach house with Anthony Weiner

Literary Lincoln Legacy: “Naked Pictures of Famous People”

Over-the-Top Praise: The Mark Twain of the digital age

Self-appraisal: “Little and hairy”

Talk to us

> Give us your news tips.

> Send us a letter to the editor.

> More Herald contact information.

More in Local News

Girl, 11, missing from Lynnwood

Sha’niece Watson’s family is concerned for her safety, according to the sheriff’s office. She has ties to Whidbey Island.

A cyclist crosses the road near the proposed site of a new park, left, at the intersection of Holly Drive and 100th Street SW on Thursday, May 2, 2024, in Everett, Washington. (Ryan Berry / The Herald)
Everett to use $2.2M for Holly neighborhood’s first park

The new park is set to double as a stormwater facility at the southeast corner of Holly Drive and 100th Street SW.

The Grand Avenue Park Bridge elevator after someone set off a fire extinguisher in the elevator last week, damaging the cables and brakes. (Photo provided by the City of Everett)
Grand Avenue Park Bridge vandalized, out of service at least a week

Repairs could cost $5,500 after someone set off a fire extinguisher in the elevator on April 27.

Jamel Alexander stands as the jury enters the courtroom for the second time during his trial at the Snohomish County Courthouse on Monday, May 6, 2024 in Everett, Washington. (Olivia Vanni / The Herald)
Second trial in Everett woman’s stomping death ends in mistrial

Jamel Alexander’s conviction in the 2019 killing of Shawna Brune was overturned on appeal in 2023. Jurors in a second trial were deadlocked.

(Photo provided by Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission, Federal Way Mirror)
Everett officer alleges sexual harassment at state police academy

In a second lawsuit since October, a former cadet alleges her instructor sexually touched her during instruction.

Michael O'Leary/The Herald
Hundreds of Boeing employees get ready to lead the second 787 for delivery to ANA in a procession to begin the employee delivery ceremony in Everett Monday morning.

photo shot Monday September 26, 2011
Boeing faces FAA probe of Dreamliner inspections, records

The probe intensifies scrutiny of the planemaker’s top-selling widebody jet after an Everett whistleblower alleged other issues.

A truck dumps sheet rock onto the floor at Airport Road Recycling & Transfer Station on Thursday, Nov. 30, 2023 in Everett, Washington. (Olivia Vanni / The Herald)
Mountlake Terrace transfer station station closed for most of May

Public Works asked customers to use other county facilities, while staff repaired floors at the southwest station.

Traffic moves along Highway 526 in front of Boeing’s Everett Production Facility on Nov. 28, 2022, in Everett, Washington. (Olivia Vanni / Sound Publishing)
Frank Shrontz, former CEO and chairman of Boeing, dies at 92

Shrontz, who died Friday, was also a member of the ownership group that took over the Seattle Mariners in 1992.

(Kate Erickson / The Herald)
A piece of gum helped solve a 1984 Everett cold case, charges say

Prosecutors charged Mitchell Gaff with aggravated murder Friday. The case went cold after leads went nowhere for four decades.

Boeing firefighters union members and supporters hold an informational picket at Airport Road and Kasch Park Road on Monday, April 29, 2024 in Everett, Washington. (Annie Barker / The Herald)
After bargaining deadline, Boeing locks out firefighters union in Everett

The union is picketing for better pay and staffing. About 40 firefighters work at Boeing’s aircraft assembly plant at Paine Field.

Andy Gibbs, co-owner of Andy’s Fish House, outside of his restaurant on Wednesday, May 1, 2024 in Snohomish, Washington. (Olivia Vanni / The Herald)
City: Campaign can’t save big tent at Andy’s Fish House in Snohomish

A petition raised over 6,000 signatures to keep the outdoor dining cover — a lifeline during COVID. But the city said its hands are tied.

South County Fire Chief Bob Eastman at South County Fire Administrative Headquarters and Training Center on Tuesday, April 30, 2024 in Everett, Washington. (Olivia Vanni / The Herald)
Buy, but don’t light: South County firework ‘compromise’ gets reconsidered

The Snohomish County Council wants your thoughts on a loophole that allows fireworks sales, but bans firework explosions south of Everett.

Support local journalism

If you value local news, make a gift now to support the trusted journalism you get in The Daily Herald. Donations processed in this system are not tax deductible.