Signals create gridlock on 164th

Laurie Heston of Lynnwood writes: “I’m writing regarding all the new development along 164th Street SW and the traffic being generated.

The two traffic signals on eastbound 164th just west of I-5, at Ash Way and the freeway on-and-off ramps, are very close together. It appears there is room to move the easternmost stop line farther east to fit up to six more cars between the two lights.

The current situation creates gridlock for drivers trying to turn left onto westbound 164th from Ash Way, as they are competing with eastbound drivers on 164th, and they often must wait through two or three cycles of the light.”

Tom Pearce, a spokesman for the state Department of Transportation, responds:

Moving the stop line forward is an excellent idea. The Transportation Department’s intersection at the southbound on-off ramps is about 250 feet from Snohomish County’s intersection at Ash Way. The state and county have worked together to find the best coordination between the two nearby traffic signals.

We know the traffic can become quite congested in such cramped quarters during peak periods. Any adjustment that can fit more cars between the signals would be beneficial. Our preliminary assessment tells us that the stop line for eastbound traffic can be shifted forward, perhaps 30 to 40 feet closer to the southbound ramp intersection.

When we looked at this site we started imagining other improvements. There could be better ways to organize the lane arrangement for turns by eastbound traffic onto the southbound I-5 on-ramp. One option would be to build an island to separate right-turn traffic and eastbound through traffic.

Some of the key considerations relate to wide-turning trucks and pedestrians. Our study will be completed in a few weeks, and we intend to make the changes this summer.

Regardless, the changes will include moving the eastbound stop line forward as suggested, creating at least a little more room for traffic.

Highway 522 ramps closing this week: Monroe drivers who typically use the 164th Street SE ramp to reach eastbound Highway 522 will need to use an alternate route this week. The ramp is scheduled to be closed from 8 p.m. Monday to 5 a.m. Tuesday and 7 p.m. Tuesday to 5 a.m. Wednesday.

Crews plan to install a new drainage system as part of the work to widen Highway 522 from the Snohomish River to U.S. 2.

Highway 203 repaving scheduled: Highway 203 is scheduled to be repaved this summer, from McDougall Street in Monroe all the way to Carnation in King County.

Survey work begins today, with lane closures scheduled for 9 a.m. through 3 p.m. every day hrough the end of the month.

Paving on the $5.7 million project is scheduled to begin in late spring or summer when the weather warms up. Completion is planned for September.

E-mail us at streetsmarts@heraldnet.com. Please include your city of residence.

Look for updates on our Street Smarts blog at www.heraldnet.com/streetsmarts.

Talk to us

> Give us your news tips.

> Send us a letter to the editor.

> More Herald contact information.

More in Local News

In this Jan. 4, 2019 photo, workers and other officials gather outside the Sky Valley Education Center school in Monroe, Wash., before going inside to collect samples for testing. The samples were tested for PCBs, or polychlorinated biphenyls, as well as dioxins and furans. A lawsuit filed on behalf of several families and teachers claims that officials failed to adequately respond to PCBs, or polychlorinated biphenyls, in the school. (AP Photo/Ted S. Warren)
Judge halves $784M for women exposed to Monsanto chemicals at Monroe school

Monsanto lawyers argued “arbitrary and excessive” damages in the Sky Valley Education Center case “cannot withstand constitutional scrutiny.”

Mukilteo Police Chief Andy Illyn and the graphic he created. He is currently attending the 10-week FBI National Academy in Quantico, Virginia. (Photo provided by Andy Illyn)
Help wanted: Unicorns for ‘pure magic’ career with Mukilteo police

“There’s a whole population who would be amazing police officers” but never considered it, the police chief said.

Alan Edward Dean, convicted of the 1993 murder of Melissa Lee, professes his innocence in the courtroom during his sentencing Wednesday, April 24, 2024, at Snohomish County Superior Court in Everett, Washington. (Ryan Berry / The Herald)
Bothell man gets 26 years in cold case murder of Melissa Lee, 15

“I’m innocent, not guilty. … They planted that DNA. I’ve been framed,” said Alan Edward Dean, as he was sentenced for the 1993 murder.

People hang up hearts with messages about saving the Clark Park gazebo during a “heart bomb” event hosted by Historic Everett on Saturday, Feb. 17, 2024 in Everett, Washington. (Olivia Vanni / The Herald)
Clark Park gazebo removal complicated by Everett historical group

Over a City Hall push, the city’s historical commission wants to find ways to keep the gazebo in place, alongside a proposed dog park.

Hawthorne Elementary students Kayden Smith, left, John Handall and Jace Debolt use their golden shovels to help plant a tree at Wiggums Hollow Park  in celebration of Washington’s Arbor Day on Wednesday, April 13, 2022 in Everett. (Olivia Vanni / The Herald)
Snohomish County to hold post-Earth Day recycling event in Monroe

Locals can bring hard-to-recycle items to Evergreen State Fair Park. Accepted items include Styrofoam, electronics and tires.

Everett
Everett baby dies amid string of child fentanyl overdoses

Firefighters have responded to three incidents of children under 2 who were exposed to fentanyl this week. Police were investigating.

Everett
Everett police arrest different man in fatal pellet gun shooting

After new evidence came to light, manslaughter charges were dropped against Alexander Moseid. Police arrested Aaron Trevino.

A Mukilteo Speedway sign hangs at an intersection along the road on Sunday, April 21, 2024, in Mukilteo, Washington. (Ryan Berry / The Herald)
What’s in a ‘speedway’? Mukilteo considers renaming main drag

“Why would anybody name their major road a speedway?” wondered Mayor Joe Marine. The city is considering a rebrand for its arterial route.

Edmonds City Council members answer questions during an Edmonds City Council Town Hall on Thursday, April 18, 2024 in Edmonds, Washington. (Olivia Vanni / The Herald)
Edmonds fire service faces expiration date, quandary about what’s next

South County Fire will end a contract with the city in late 2025, citing insufficient funds. Edmonds sees four options for its next step.

House Transportation Subcommittee Chairman Rep. Rick Larsen, D-Wash., speaks during a hearing on Capitol Hill in Washington, Wednesday, May 15, 2019, on the status of the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft.(AP Photo/Susan Walsh)
How Snohomish County lawmakers voted on TikTok ban, aid to Israel, Ukraine

The package includes a bill to ban TikTok if it stays in the hands of a Chinese company, which made one Everett lawmaker object.

FILE - In this May 26, 2020, file photo, a grizzly bear roams an exhibit at the Woodland Park Zoo, closed for nearly three months because of the coronavirus outbreak in Seattle. Grizzly bears once roamed the rugged landscape of the North Cascades in Washington state but few have been sighted in recent decades. The federal government is scrapping plans to reintroduce grizzly bears to the North Cascades ecosystem. (AP Photo/Elaine Thompson, File)
Grizzlies to return to North Cascades, feds confirm in controversial plan

Under a final plan announced Thursday, officials will release three to seven bears per year. They anticipate 200 in a century.s

ZeroAvia founder and CEO Val Mifthakof, left, shows Gov. Jay Inslee a hydrogen-powered motor during an event at ZeroAvia’s new Everett facility on Wednesday, April 24, 2024, near Paine Field in Everett, Washington. (Ryan Berry / The Herald)
ZeroAvia’s new Everett center ‘a huge step in decarbonizing’ aviation

The British-American company, which is developing hydrogen-electric powered aircraft, expects one day to employ hundreds at the site.

Support local journalism

If you value local news, make a gift now to support the trusted journalism you get in The Daily Herald. Donations processed in this system are not tax deductible.